GOGOJILI legit,Recharge Every day and Get Bonus up-to 50%! https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/ Tue, 12 Apr 2022 03:51:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Joel Dietz https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:13:01 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-32 I should have said “you the body, indefatigable mound of flesh, burning”

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By: Nathan https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-28 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:54:04 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-28 That is just beautiful, about Picasso!

I say the word is “this.” You did “this.” Redemption with respect to “this.” The “this” is body/bodies. There is no Guernica without bodies to destroy, nor any redemption.

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By: Joel https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:09:22 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-27 I believe the process theology comes from AT’s forebears in the Christian Studies chair at Kyoto University. The unique spin of ‘hayathology’ is AT’s. He considered himself an orthodox Christian.

That line was supposed to describe Picasso’s inner conflict. During the occupation a German official asked of a print of Guernica on the wall, ‘Did you do this?’ Picasso responded, ‘No, you did.’

I apply this to the body. What does redemption mean with respect to this?

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By: Nathan https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:19:14 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-26 In reply to Joel.

Fascinating that Process theology is being picked up in Asia. I guess the world is filled with surprises. Is AT a Christian, or is this Process stuff being somehow removed from the Christian context, a la Agamben/Baidou on Paul?

What the mountains brought from you is beautiful, though I can’t say I want to sympathize with this disembodiedness:

you the body, the indefatigable and odious mound of flesh that holds me to this present moment

Matthew 26:41 makes me wonder whether the bodily optimism one often hears in incarnational theology isn’t biblically inaccurate. I tend to prefer to incarnational to the biblical.

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By: Joel https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:41:35 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-25 A couple tidbits on this site (https://blog.goo.ne.jp/eigenwille/e/54c69c1ab4d3189ed44da3a6385abdfc)

The inter-cultural dialogue coming out of Kyoto since the war period past century has been primarily via Tillich and the process theologians, whom seem generally to have been more interested in each other. AT pioneered ‘hayathology’ which seeks to escape some of the limitations of such, sharing something with Buber/Rosezweig’s translation of the bible and idea of ‘I Am’ as active force rather than simply being in a Greek ontological sense. I’m not sure how robust it is as my Japanese is not good enough to touch the original (yet).

I agree about personhood and would add the requirement that self-definition involves re-appropriating one’s own body (https://joeldietz.com/post/39999218/how-do-we-remember-a-sequence-of-images). This is the post I meant to link you to before, but only makes sense silhouetted by Picasso’s Guernica.

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By: Nathan https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:15:13 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-24 Wow, I’d love to learn about this Ariga Tetsuro – the name turns up nothing in a Google search. Really what a closed, limited English-speaking world I inhabit.

Of course the paradox is of great interest in Christianity… A conversation with a friend last night about Tolstoy’s ideal pacifist Jesus reminded me how much all of this relates to the ongoing discussions about messianism in Continental philosophy these days—Agamben, Baidou, and Zizek. And of course, in there efforts to think through political utopianism, all travel by way of Pauling Christianity (for Agamben, Pauling messianic Judaism).

What I point to at the end is the sense in which utopias and their messiahs collapse in the face of simple personhood, or what I have described elsewhere as the aspiration to coherent personhood.

Christianity, it can be said, insists on overturning that logic, that sense. Three can inhabit one, and perfection can lie in a person—it’s no contradiction, it’s a mystery.

So you’ve got to have the desire that wants to take that leap…

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By: Joel https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-23 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:35:57 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-23 One wonders if Christianity forces the embrace of what you call double-truth, or holy paradox, but in positive form forces it to complete polarization. That is, the supposed end is completely unattainable (the extinction, for example, of lust) and all human activity becomes subject to this tension. Whereas if you remove the higher, ultimately unattainable, you dissolve the tension entirely and end up with dysfunctional communes. If you settle for a lower truth you end up with latent hypocrisy and useless Straussians, as you mention above.

Ariga Tetsuro writes on this but it remains mostly untranslated into English.

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By: Nathan https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:28:20 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-18 You, my friend, have just discovered the craze that swept my world around, I think, fifth grade: Magic Eye!

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By: Ron C. de Weijze https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:32:25 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-17 Nathan, that quote is likely not documented on the web, possibly it is not even Duijker’s in the first place. I heard him say it on a symposium back then and ever since I felt its importance grew. However he may have picked it up somewhere else too. BTW, Duijker was a mentor for all Dutch psychologists.

I hadn’t heard of William Sims Bainbridge I am sorry to admit. However I did come across what I now believe to be nanoconvergence, which I do completely NOT understand. Look at this picture long enough and you see a teapot floating in thin air and in 3 dimensions [1]. I really do want to know how that works and I will therefore check out Bainbridge’s work.

Glad I found your site!

[1] https://www.pmm.nl/_private/teapotsirds_winfree.gif

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By: Nathan https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/06/the-theory-of-double-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:13:39 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=25#comment-16 Ron,
I’m not sure I’m clear about a lot of what you’re saying (and I can’t find the Duijker 1982 reference to explore more). But I am fascinated by your website and the memory machine you sell. For me, The Row Boat is a kind of memory machine, along with the rest of Small’s Clone Industries (along with a few other folks). I wonder if you’re aware of the ideas of William Sims Bainbridge, an American social scientist who does some interesting computer dabbling. His website has information about his “personality capture” software, and he has written articles speculating on what the social effects of such software, if successful, might be.

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