Gogo Jili 777 Login,Claim Your Free 999 Pesos Bonus Today https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/ Tue, 12 Apr 2022 03:51:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: The Fullest Yahya Investigation Yet | The Row Boat by Nathan Schneider https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-7534 Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:00:49 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-7534 […] last October. He fortunately had the resources and connections to reveal far more than I was able in my articles on the man. Nevertheless, I am pleased to see that he found my work useful: As the […]

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By: A Godly Test | The Row Boat by Nathan Schneider https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-2357 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:42:30 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-2357 […] an article of mine on how people think about evolution in the Middle East. More in-depth than my earlier piece for Seed, it revolves around my interview with Harun Yahya (aka Adnan Oktar), the leader of a Turkish […]

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By: Nathan https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-1351 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:38:05 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-1351 Great comments, CP. In crafting that sentence about “colonial domination,” I tried to take care to be speaking of the Muslim world as a whole, not Turkey alone. I’m not sure how much Turks generally feel this, but I get the sense from Yahya that he sees Turkey as having a special guardianship role over the Muslim world, which, after the breakup of the Ottoman Empire (and before), experienced varying degrees of domination. He calls for a return to an Ottoman-like confederation of Muslim countries. And, like Nursi and Gulen, he embraces some Western science while being opposed to what he sees as an atheistic dead-end inscribed in it. So I do think there is some sense of guardianship in his works that is specific to the Muslim world. Though, you’re right, he has at times found common cause with American creationists. Post-colonialist stuff is not the whole story, but I would insist that it is a part.

The Atlas is among Yahya’s more ecumenical works. It isn’t afraid to quote the Qur’an or to invoke the name of Allah, but most of it would make perfect sense to a creationist Christian (except this particular blend of old-earth creationism doesn’t much lend itself to Genesis). In other books, such as Why Darwinism Is Incompatible with the Qur’an, he speaks more directly to Muslims. Nowhere is he reluctant to proclaim a Muslim identity. He does, however, like to reach out to Christians by talking about the imminent coming of Christ.

I do agree that it is wrong to label anti-evolutionism as flat-out aligned with post-colonial Islam. In my next article on Yahya, projected for the March issue of Search magazine, I will argue that Muslims are anything but doomed to creationism. I think it is very much an open question, one where there is a lot of room for creativity.

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By: CP https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-1348 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:18:46 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-1348 Fascinating and well-executed article. Your admission of feeling uncertain about Yahya is refreshingly forthright. Just one point that I took issue with: you write that Yahya is “speaking from a Muslim world struggling to regain its religion and culture after colonial domination.” Turkey was never under direct colonial rule, and while the founding fathers of republican Turkey were Europhiles, they were Turks.

So in understanding the significance of Yahya’s work, I think it’s more helpful to place him in a broader, globalized context of those who oppose the outcomes of a Darwinian, scientific age rather than a post-colonial Muslim world. I’m not familiar with his work…Do any parts of the Atlas speak specifically to a Muslim audience?

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By: Nathan https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-977 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:34:02 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-977 Glad you liked it! (Be sure to check out my review of Lauri’s excellent recent book, which may have actually precipitated my invitation to meet Mr. Yahya.)

Note that the article in Search will not feature the complete interview, but probably even less about it; instead, it will focus on contextualizing Yahya and Islamic creationism in general. If you want to see the full interview, you can watch it here.

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By: Lauri Lebo https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-975 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:42:39 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-975 Intriguing article, Nathan. I can’t imagine what a fascinating experience this must have been for you. I’m really looking forward to the longer published version of the interview in Search.

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By: Hameed on me on Yahya | The Row Boat by Nathan Schneider https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-950 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:02:53 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-950 […] Ticker My interview with Adnan Oktar | The Row Boat by Nathan Schneider on The Artist of the BeautifulReligious literacy runs into trouble in Quebec | The Row Boat by Nathan Schneider on All in […]

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By: My interview with Adnan Oktar | The Row Boat by Nathan Schneider https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-948 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:10:59 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-948 […] in Moderation?Nathan on Less news in NewsweekJoel Dietz on Less news in NewsweekBj?rn Brembs on The Artist of the BeautifulNathan on That Jewish couple in Mumbai Step […]

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By: Bj?rn Brembs https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-932 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:42:25 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-932 Well, from all I read about this guy, it’s all show and no substance. Pretty clothes for a guy obviously completely lacking all intellectual attractiveness and colorful images for a text only worth re-selling, not reading.
Personally, I’m into abstract art and religion to me is a mere drug for the masses, with priests and other religious zealots ranging anywhere between a comforting bartender and a drug-dealer. So basically, to me, Oktar is a scribble-pimping drug-dealer who fills the spaces between his infantile doodles with stuff he doesn’t understand to get the junkies hooked.
What’s up with this fascination for a guy who dresses like a pimp and deals religion to poor people who can’t know any better then to waste their precious little money on his dope?

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By: Nathan https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2008/12/the-artist-of-the-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-921 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:19:33 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=339#comment-921 Thanks for mentioning Ertugrul—I wasn’t aware of him and will certainly explore further.

And I do believe I’ve seen pictures of Darwin in the Yahya corpus where the images are edited to make him look a lot scarier.

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