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By: Nathan

Nathan — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:44:11 +0000

Yes, the New York thing certainly occurred to me (though my rent here is actually the same as it was in Santa Barbara, where the only networking opportunities to speak of (outside my wonderful department colleagues) was with the beach.

I think what’s motivating my frustration here is the curmudgeonly idea that if you’re going to have a school about something, you should at least believe you have something to teach. Otherwise, do something else (like move to New York and make like-minded friends). Or run a fellowship program. Or an art colony. I think the idea in me of a university as a place of study and research, of learning what’s beyond oneself rather than simply exercising one’s preexisting talents, is rearing its emperical head.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:25:37 +0000

No, but you’re paying New York rent, which is almost as exorbitant. In some way or another, we all sacrifice to access whatever Club we think we need to be in. Sometimes we learn concrete things from the Club; other times, it’s just about hanging out. That’s even what they say about law school: it’s about the contacts, not learning about contracts. All of which would be fine if the tenured Iowa crowd would just own up to what they’re actually doing: stop worshiping the Platonic form of The Writer and instead talk about writers, as in people who write, and what they have to do in the real world to get published (which, unfortunately, includes a fair amount of palm-greasing, sometimes in the form of paying extortion money to a university or two). I think this is a crucial part of the point you made, Nathan: postmodernists like Vonnegut don’t believe in anything (Truth, Beauty, etc.) but somehow they continue to perpetuate the myth of The Writer? Sounds pretty self-serving to me…

By: Nathan

Nathan — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:40:07 +0000

Yeah, actually, I have to give some more credit to Menand’s experience. Few things have been more valuable to my work than my friendships here in New York with other writers. They are such a necessary support. I guess the only difference is I’m not paying Ivy League tuition to hang out with them.

By: Quentin Kirk

Quentin Kirk — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:40:29 +0000

Very good.
Perhaps young writers also need to be widely experienced: live in foreign countries, associate closely with people very different from themselves, suffer in idealistic causes, and follow a personal, private fascination. And maybe meet others doing the same.

By: Eli

Eli — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:02:18 +0000

Looking back on the crap I produced years ago, I’d say that even if writing can’t be taught, one can certainly get better at it.

And if journalists studied what they wanted to write about, instead of studying writing itself, we’d all be more informed.