Gogojili666,REGISTER NOW GET FREE 888 PESOS REWARDS! https://www.lelandquarterly.com Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:47:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7 Comment on 30% Off Thank You, Anarchy—Plus Events! by Claire https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2013/10/30-off-thank-you-anarchy-plus-events/comment-page-1/#comment-59082 Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:47:08 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=2401#comment-59082 Denise, do you go to Parnassus Books? It would be great to get an event with Nathan there! Would you be willing to suggest it to Ann Patchett?

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Comment on 30% Off Thank You, Anarchy—Plus Events! by Denise https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2013/10/30-off-thank-you-anarchy-plus-events/comment-page-1/#comment-58569 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:14:31 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=2401#comment-58569 No dates down South? We had a good-sized Occupy movement in Nashville. Hope to see you here in the future!

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Comment on God/Human Venn Diagram by David Rivera https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2013/08/godhuman-venn-diagram/comment-page-1/#comment-57474 Fri, 30 Aug 2013 06:28:48 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=2304#comment-57474 Basing on the diagram, I can say that God exists in man. That is the very reason why human beings have innate talents and abilities that are sometimes impossible to comprehend. God lives in all of us. It is up to us how we nurture and acknowledge His presence in us.

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Comment on The New Theist by BSquibs https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2013/07/the-new-theist/comment-page-1/#comment-55843 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:44:51 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=2194#comment-55843 Great article, Nathan. I thought that it was well written, balanced and instead of the usual “will they / won’t they debate” question you offered us an insight into WLC the man.

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Comment on The Official Guide to God in Proof by machinephilosophy https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2013/05/the-official-guide-to-god-in-proof/comment-page-1/#comment-55403 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 01:02:17 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=2048#comment-55403 Thanks for your hard work and scholarship in producing it. I’ve linked t it on my website. Cheers

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Comment on The New Theist by machinephilosophy https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2013/07/the-new-theist/comment-page-1/#comment-55401 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 23:10:00 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=2194#comment-55401 Actually, the debate is headed for philosophy of logic and other meta-theoretic issues, so Craig has been wise to delve into these areas for the last decade.

After all, the criteria for analyzing the issue of God’s existence is itself already God-level—an issue almost universally avoided by both sides in the God debate, even in academic philosophy.

Background criteria, self-reference, and general meta-theoretic issues are almost universally avoided in academia today (and not just in philosophy). Craig is apparently hip to the emerging call of philosophy’s bluff. although he’s been talking about self-referential issues for decades. For that, I salute him.

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Comment on On Strike Against Myself by Claire https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2012/05/on-strike-against-myself/comment-page-1/#comment-47937 Wed, 30 May 2012 12:49:32 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=1693#comment-47937 I just spotted the author!

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Comment on On Strike Against Myself by Nathan https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2012/05/on-strike-against-myself/comment-page-1/#comment-47754 Fri, 04 May 2012 14:14:52 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=1693#comment-47754 Surely not, though this boy’s attempt to prove God’s existence certainly was.

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Comment on On Strike Against Myself by Theo Warner https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2012/05/on-strike-against-myself/comment-page-1/#comment-47749 Fri, 04 May 2012 09:44:08 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=1693#comment-47749 I suppose God was on strike that day, too….

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Comment on Paint the Other Cheek by Keith Nakatani https://www.lelandquarterly.com/2012/03/paint-the-other-cheek/comment-page-1/#comment-47458 Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:37:50 +0000 https://www.therowboat.com/?p=1683#comment-47458 Nathan,

Glad to see you addressed nonviolence versus “diversity of tactics” in Occupy (“Paint the other cheek”), however, I believe that the article misses the mark. Its perspectives are the same ones I heard in Occupy Oakland (OO) and point to Occupy’s biggest problem: not adequately engaging participants in in-depth discussions about why adopting nonviolence is critical.

Occupy can only become a transformative force is if it grows exponentially. More than other factors, failure to adopt nonviolence and working to minimize destructive behavior will undermine Occupy’s ability to adequately increase numbers of participants and supporters. Yet, in (Oakland) General Assemblies and online pieces, the link between nonviolence and movement building is under-addressed.

Chris Hedges’ “The cancer in Occupy” is an exception. His main message is correct: violent activity by protesters “is a gift from heaven to the security and surveillance state.” Unfortunately, he used heated and polarizing language.

OO is a great example of both the powerful garnering of widespread support when the authorities inevitably use excessive force and the repercussions of the short-sighted failure to champion nonviolence. OO had little visibility beyond the Bay Area before October 25, 2011, but the heavy-handed camp eviction by police that day, the tragic shooting of Scott Olsen, and the widespread condemnation of the authorities catapulted it into the international limelight.

Just a week later on November 2nd, OO audaciously organized a general strike, march, and Port of Oakland shutdown. The shutdown was perhaps the largest Occupy action thus far. The official figure of 7,000 protesters was laughable, there were at least 20,000 to 30,000, perhaps more. People streamed into the Port area for over two hours. It was a great action: huge, diverse, peaceful, and festive.

Yet sadly, only hours after the shutdown, OO began unraveling when a handful of people took over a vacant downtown building for a couple of hours and battled the police by setting fires and throwing rocks and bottles. In just a few hours, a few people turned a victory into a black-eye, demoralized and angered the majority who had participated in the shutdown, and alienated would be supporters. OO has regressed ever since.

Short-sighted strategic blunders continued with the attempted takeover of a vacant downtown lot on November 19th, the brief takeover and eviction from a West Oakland residential lot in late December, and the attempted takeover of the Henry Kaiser Convention Center on January 28th. It was clear these would be hurtful actions because there was no chance of occupation and would result in counterproductive confrontations with the police (as opposed to UC Davis and Berkeley students being pepper-sprayed and brutalized without striking back, which resulted in tremendous public sympathy and anger directed at authorities). OO also conducted small, weekly “fuck the police” marches for awhile, whose purpose seemed to be venting anger. All this caused many OO participants to disengage and turned increasing numbers of the general public against it.

It also demonstrated how sidetracked and unrealistic the supporters of those actions are: turning the tactic of occupation into a goal, wasting much time and energy on planning the actions (including dragging furniture to the sites), and keeping the location of the Jan 28th action “secret” so that the authorities “wouldn’t know”. Of course the police knew, they surrounded the convention center before the marchers showed up.

I’m not familiar with GA’s at other Occupy’s, but if they’re like Oakland’s, then a problem is the inability to have in-depth discussion on key issues. Proposals are presented, clarifying questions are asked and answered, brief statements of pros and cons are made, and votes are cast. In Oakland, when GAs were at their strongest, the result was votes that were more easily influenced by the constant shouts of the regular and angry contingent opposed to nonviolence, votes being made without hearing in-depth debates, and bad decisions that have significantly decreased participation and support.

You say diversity of tactics supporters believe “the whole opposition between violence and nonviolence seems contrived to divide the movement.” The divide isn’t contrived and isn’t mostly driven by the state. No doubt there are provocateurs, but the divisions are mostly genuinely internal. The Oakland evidence is significant majorities have supported the adoption of nonviolence, but the 90 percent approval criteria (which is too high) wasn’t achieved and most of those folks no longer participate. GA attendance was regularly close to one thousand in November. More recently, it’s been a struggle to get a quorum of one hundred.

Thus far, Occupy has had an amazing short-term impact, but the struggle is a marathon. Occupy sprinted out of the gates catching everyone off-guard, but it must strategically prepare for the long-run. The most important strategic element is adopting nonviolence, diligently working to minimize destructive behavior, and strongly disavowing when it happens. If that doesn’t happen, the movement won’t secure the huge amount of support needed to be transformative, and the financial system and environment will continue to rush headlong towards collapse.

Keith Nakatani
Oakland, CA

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